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I see two distinctly separate issues: jark being fired, and the XYZ groups system. anybody mixing the two into some grand conspiracy is delusional.
first, Scott "jark".
it's my understanding that Scott was only a figurehead. he may have been the impetus behind the initial formation of dA, but if others had not been brought in at key points, dA would have years ago fallen apart under a pile of unpaid bills, underperforming servers, and overextended bandwidth usage.
jark still holds shares in dA, and he still has a day job. he never risked as much as other staff members. dA ceased to be his baby when he and matteo brought on others to help with the technical duties and got it to pull its own weight from a monetary standpoint. it grew up, whether he realised this at the time or not. in retrospect he can claim that he was left out of decisions and not given information, but I suspect ignorance plays a bigger role. he certainly didn't act like a president from a business standpoint.
dA is bigger than you, or me, or even jark. it doesn't need a champion or a figurehead anymore. it needs solutions for self-organization and scaling, neither of which a figurehead provides. the v1 code is long gone and buried. as a shareholder, jark still has a vested interest in dA's continued success. it will enlightening to see if the threatened legal proceedings even happen, and if they do, what information will be presented.
XYZ groups:
spyed's mistake was describing what he is/was trying to do instead of simply implementing it and examining what happened. by pre-selling the idea he leaves/left interpretation open to wild hyperbole and rumors.
dA needs better self-organization. right now it's like drinking from a firehose or swimming in the middle of the pacific. I have no fucking clue how to find more art I'm actually interested in, aside from traversing chains of favorites and doing keyword searches which may or may not turn up things I'm looking for. (which keyword usage I may or may not agree with.) writing about photographs is like dancing about poetry -- there may be some vague correlations which can be made, and eventually a vocabulary may be formed, but it's still a far cry from dealing with the actual work.
the paradox is attempting to place metrics on abstracts of artwork which are essentially unmeasurable. the metrics are necessary in order to sort and present artworks in a non-random order.
some people want themselves to be labeled -- others do not. I see nothing in the proposed XYZ groups system that forces anybody one way or another. it's simply another metric to be utilized.
my main objection with dA is that the interface doesn't allow users to create their own sortings based on metrics. personally I'd like to see old submissions with low views -- "forgotten" pieces, so to speak. I'd also like a framework to create my own relative metrics between pieces, IE "I like piece A better than B" with some way of overlaying that with other people in the system to generate suggestions. have all of this completely open-ended and up to the user to assemble at will.
but now everybody has jumped down spyed's neck we may never know if his metric was any good or not.
first, Scott "jark".
it's my understanding that Scott was only a figurehead. he may have been the impetus behind the initial formation of dA, but if others had not been brought in at key points, dA would have years ago fallen apart under a pile of unpaid bills, underperforming servers, and overextended bandwidth usage.
jark still holds shares in dA, and he still has a day job. he never risked as much as other staff members. dA ceased to be his baby when he and matteo brought on others to help with the technical duties and got it to pull its own weight from a monetary standpoint. it grew up, whether he realised this at the time or not. in retrospect he can claim that he was left out of decisions and not given information, but I suspect ignorance plays a bigger role. he certainly didn't act like a president from a business standpoint.
dA is bigger than you, or me, or even jark. it doesn't need a champion or a figurehead anymore. it needs solutions for self-organization and scaling, neither of which a figurehead provides. the v1 code is long gone and buried. as a shareholder, jark still has a vested interest in dA's continued success. it will enlightening to see if the threatened legal proceedings even happen, and if they do, what information will be presented.
XYZ groups:
spyed's mistake was describing what he is/was trying to do instead of simply implementing it and examining what happened. by pre-selling the idea he leaves/left interpretation open to wild hyperbole and rumors.
dA needs better self-organization. right now it's like drinking from a firehose or swimming in the middle of the pacific. I have no fucking clue how to find more art I'm actually interested in, aside from traversing chains of favorites and doing keyword searches which may or may not turn up things I'm looking for. (which keyword usage I may or may not agree with.) writing about photographs is like dancing about poetry -- there may be some vague correlations which can be made, and eventually a vocabulary may be formed, but it's still a far cry from dealing with the actual work.
the paradox is attempting to place metrics on abstracts of artwork which are essentially unmeasurable. the metrics are necessary in order to sort and present artworks in a non-random order.
some people want themselves to be labeled -- others do not. I see nothing in the proposed XYZ groups system that forces anybody one way or another. it's simply another metric to be utilized.
my main objection with dA is that the interface doesn't allow users to create their own sortings based on metrics. personally I'd like to see old submissions with low views -- "forgotten" pieces, so to speak. I'd also like a framework to create my own relative metrics between pieces, IE "I like piece A better than B" with some way of overlaying that with other people in the system to generate suggestions. have all of this completely open-ended and up to the user to assemble at will.
but now everybody has jumped down spyed's neck we may never know if his metric was any good or not.
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dA still lives
I don't think I know anybody who still works here, but apparently my database entries have continued to roll forward these last 18 years. I was reminded of the site from my son looking for cursor packs for windows, and dissuading him from running random executables downloaded from SEO'd websites. (he found some very cute cursors...) I vaguely recall the ML training fiasco, (which may be ongoing,) but I have so little here it doesn't impact me personally. I'm old and salty enough to be of the mindset that if it's posted on the internet, unless very deliberate actions are taken to restrict access, your data (including this public post) will be mined for profit where possible. There is no public space on the internet except where explicitly carved out by governments -- the default is private ownership. The best thing that could happen for ML is establishment of clear liability of model owners for the products of their models since they are derivative works by definition. Maybe this
Devious Journal Entry
so here we are almost six years since my last journal post.
I heard dA got sold... came back wondering if anybody I knew from the early days (hi mccann (https://www.deviantart.com/mccann) ) was still around or active.
and I find myself once again sitting at my workstation in the basement, this time with kid #3 on my lap. I took a bunch of hard drives to the local recycler last week. more iterations, but a lot of the same.
it's been so long since I've shot film, it took me over a year to realize that my local store doesn't even have a developer on-site anymore. I have a romantic notion of shooting B&W again, developing in my basement, and scanning the negatives, but it
The yearly dA post
What a hectic time since my last post.
* my brother got married
* my wife and I found out we were expecting a child
* I got a new job (as a contractor)
* our son, Desmond, was born
* our second cat (Felix) passed away
* I got hired as a full-time employee
Desmond is asleep now, and my wife and a friend are watching Glee from the never-ending netflix / roku font. I'm guessing I have another hour or so until Desmond wakes up and I'm summoned to head to bed.
I'm in my basement going through old hard drives, identifying the dead ones for recycling, reformatting, doing some limited benchmarking, doing some updates, and generally trying to
A year later...
dA is still around. hopefully it's thriving. it's been long enough that I don't know if I'd recognize $mccann if I ran into him on the street. $pinguino is apparently a friend of a guy I went to high school with. $sylderon seems to have disappeared. (I only knew him through his photos.)
I started visiting dA a bit over five years ago when $dv8it was doing some consulting for them. I still have a whiteboard with his plan for reorganizing dA's network here in my basement. I've taken photos of it, but I don't know if I could bring myself to erase it. there are still some things of his that I still haven't completely integrated into my
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That was basically Jark's job as a leader, bringing in other staff members to help with the work. It had to be done, one man alone couldn't build, maintain and manage DeviantART.
It's my guess that probably 95% of all companys in the world have a figurehead, a leader you may say. Without one there is no-one to assign seperate jobs to different people, organise his staff and overlook things. As a leader, Jark had the ability to put his own workload off onto others, basically all the staff for any company are doing the boss' work, all spread out between his minions, in other words, Jark diddn't have to do anything if he diddn't want to. So when you say "dA ceased to be his baby when he and matteo brought on others to help with the technical duties and got it to pull its own weight from a monetary standpoint", you're wrong. If he started it, he owns it, it doesn't matter who did the minions work after.
All decisions of a company don't have to go back up to the figurehead, that's what his staff are for, I'm sure there was some sort of Leadership structure? Heads of different departments etc.. Which could make decisions for their own department etc.. I hope so, because that's the point of a structure, so the head guy doesn't get bombarded with every little detail going on, you simply can't handle it.
Since when can the CEO fire the president? I wouldn't be surprised if Jark takes legal action, I would.
It's my guess that probably 95% of all companys in the world have a figurehead, a leader you may say. Without one there is no-one to assign seperate jobs to different people, organise his staff and overlook things. As a leader, Jark had the ability to put his own workload off onto others, basically all the staff for any company are doing the boss' work, all spread out between his minions, in other words, Jark diddn't have to do anything if he diddn't want to. So when you say "dA ceased to be his baby when he and matteo brought on others to help with the technical duties and got it to pull its own weight from a monetary standpoint", you're wrong. If he started it, he owns it, it doesn't matter who did the minions work after.
All decisions of a company don't have to go back up to the figurehead, that's what his staff are for, I'm sure there was some sort of Leadership structure? Heads of different departments etc.. Which could make decisions for their own department etc.. I hope so, because that's the point of a structure, so the head guy doesn't get bombarded with every little detail going on, you simply can't handle it.
Since when can the CEO fire the president? I wouldn't be surprised if Jark takes legal action, I would.